As a former trader of mortgage-backed securities, married to another former one (now ordained pastor), we have had many discussions about not just good, but ethical business practices in sales and trading. I do believe their is a strong distinction between retail ( you and me ) and institutional ( hedge funds, pension funds...) clients with respect assumed levels of understanding of product offerings. Honesty, appropriateness, and full transparency should always be governing principals for both. That said people will have differing opinions about whether a security is cheap or rich, and that is what makes markets. Valuation of securities, bonds, stocks or CDOs is ALWAYS based on assumptions regarding underlying cash flows, and people have different assumptions. So does all this mean that "SCF 8A A1NV an early 2006 vintage mezzanine super senior CDO" ( from GS press release) should have ever been created? Debatable. Arguably market forces should dictate what is created (with disclosure rules) and where there is demand, supply will follow.
The deeper question is what forces created the demand for toxic waste securities? I have a yet to be written essay on that topic but I believe the main, but not only reason, was the thirst for incremental yield. With interest rates so low for so long, and with Fannie and Freddie needing to grow earnings through expanding their investment portfolios and business lines, thereby collapsing spreads and yields, both the FED and these agencies played a major role in crowding out other investors and forcing them in to look for yield in all the wrong places. I am sure there are whole BOOKS dedicated to this topic that I wrote just three sentences on, but that is my premise.
As for Goldman they have done a heck of a lot in response to the crisis, as they should. They recently set up a committee to review their business practices, which will be made public and perhaps set a new industry standard. They have not been against financial reform, and in fact they outlined their recommendations here. Bottom line, I do not believe GS was doing anything most other firms were not doing, but that does not make it all ok. There was a massive train wreck and they played a role, as did so many others, and have to accept the consequences. Hopefully the outcome will be healthier and more sustainable financial markets. Time will tell.
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Jackie, I don't think that your opinion that the "FED and these agencies [Fannie and Freddie] played a major role in crowding out other investors and forcing them in to look for yield in all the wrong places" is going to sway too many minds. People are just too smart to believe anything from the Goldman PR machine. I really like most of your blog posts but wish you would spend less time defending your past employer and defending the good causes you stand for.
Goldman Sachs spent beaucoup bucks in lobbying trying to loosen federal regulations of the financial services industry. To cry that it was only doing what it had to to play by the rules of the game -- when it helped lobby for those rules -- is pure hypocrisy.
Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone's Political Chief Political Report, says it best here:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/24
Goldman is little better than a criminal enterprise that earns its billions by bilking the market, the government, and even its own clients in a bewildering variety of complex financial scams.
Confronted with the evidence of public outrage over these deals, the leaders of Goldman will often appear to be genuinely confused, scratching their heads and staring quizzically into the camera like they don't know what you're upset about. It's not an act. There have been a lot of greedy financiers and banks in history, but what makes Goldman stand out is its truly bizarre cultist/religious belief in the rightness of what it does.
The point was driven home in England last year, when Goldman's international adviser, sounding exactly like a character in Atlas Shrugged, told an audience at St Paul's Cathedral that "The injunction of Jesus to love others as ourselves is an endorsement of self-interest". A few weeks later, Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein told the Times that he was doing "God's work".
Even if he stands to make a buck at it, even your average used-car salesman won't sell some working father a car with wobbly brakes, then buy life insurance policies on that customer and his kids. But this is done almost as a matter of routine in the financial services industry, where the attitude after the inevitable pileup would be that that family was dumb for getting into the car in the first place. . . . this Randian mindset is now ingrained in the American character.
Jackie, I don't think that your opinion that the "FED and these agencies [Fannie and Freddie] played a major role in crowding out other investors and forcing them in to look for yield in all the wrong places" is going to sway too many minds. People are just too smart to believe anything from the Goldman PR machine. I really like most of your blog posts but wish you would spend less time defending your past employer and defending the good causes you stand for.
Goldman Sachs spent beaucoup bucks in lobbying trying to loosen federal regulations of the financial services industry. To cry that it was only doing what it had to to play by the rules of the game -- when it helped lobby for those rules -- is pure hypocrisy.
Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone's Political Chief Political Report, says it best here:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/24
Goldman is little better than a criminal enterprise that earns its billions by bilking the market, the government, and even its own clients in a bewildering variety of complex financial scams.
Confronted with the evidence of public outrage over these deals, the leaders of Goldman will often appear to be genuinely confused, scratching their heads and staring quizzically into the camera like they don't know what you're upset about. It's not an act. There have been a lot of greedy financiers and banks in history, but what makes Goldman stand out is its truly bizarre cultist/religious belief in the rightness of what it does.
The point was driven home in England last year, when Goldman's international adviser, sounding exactly like a character in Atlas Shrugged, told an audience at St Paul's Cathedral that "The injunction of Jesus to love others as ourselves is an endorsement of self-interest".
Even if he stands to make a buck at it, even your average used-car salesman won't sell some working father a car with wobbly brakes, then buy life insurance policies on that customer and his kids. But this is done almost as a matter of routine in the financial services industry, where the attitude after the inevitable pileup would be that that family was dumb for getting into the car in the first place. . . . this Randian mindset is now ingrained in the American character.
Jackie, I don't think that your opinion that the "FED and these agencies [Fannie and Freddie] played a major role in crowding out other investors and forcing them in to look for yield in all the wrong places" is going to sway too many minds. People are just too smart to believe anything from the Goldman PR machine. I really like most of your blog posts but wish you would spend less time defending your past employer and defending the good causes you stand for.
Goldman Sachs spent beaucoup bucks in lobbying trying to loosen federal regulations of the financial services industry. To cry that it was only doing what it had to to play by the rules of the game -- when it helped lobby for those rules -- is pure hypocrisy.
Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone's Political Chief Political Report, says it best here:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/24
Goldman is little better than a criminal enterprise that earns its billions by bilking the market, the government, and even its own clients in a bewildering variety of complex financial scams.
Confronted with the evidence of public outrage over these deals, the leaders of Goldman will often appear to be genuinely confused, scratching their heads and staring quizzically into the camera like they don't know what you're upset about. It's not an act. There have been a lot of greedy financiers and banks in history, but what makes Goldman stand out is its truly bizarre cultist/religious belief in the rightness of what it does.
The point was driven home in England last year, when Goldman's international adviser, sounding exactly like a character in Atlas Shrugged, told an audience at St Paul's Cathedral that "The injunction of Jesus to love others as ourselves is an endorsement of self-interest".
Even if he stands to make a buck at it, even your average used-car salesman won't sell some working father a car with wobbly brakes, then buy life insurance policies on that customer and his kids. But this is done almost as a matter of routine in the financial services industry.
Operator error! I just saw that accidentally posted this multiple times! Sorry about this. I wasn't trying to "spam" this blog. My apologies to all.
Thank you for the comment and you make some very good points, and respectfully, which I really appreciate. I worked at Goldman Sachs for 14 years, having left 8 years ago now, and it is fair to say i have a positive bias towards them. That said I have written some tough pieces about them and am one of the few people that have worked there that seem willing to. I do not intend to write often on GS so I hope you keep reading. Thanks again.
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